Mark,
re your discussion on making the right choice the suspicious car/s and if you should have approached or not. NO!
1) you have no idea as to how many are in the car.
2) you do not know if they are armed.
3) if armed will your approach escalate the situation into violence?
Love your show. I listen on KNZZ 1100 AM in Grand Junction, CO.
John
p.s. I do not grill. But I make a delicious venisen stew! I usually carry a Springfield XD .45 at home or while out jb
While the whole story has yet to be told … the more I hear the more it seems Zimmerman reasonably feared for his life. Still, his decision to fire has undeniably altered his life; a lesson we should all take away. Many are wearing a “hoodie” in support of Trayvon. I’m wearing a 9mm in support of George …
Tony Kushner: “What used to be called liberal is now called radical, what used to be called radical is now called insane, what used to be called reactionary is now called moderate, and what used to be called insane is now called solid conservative thinking.”
Found your podcasts on I-Tunes and love your show. May I be so bold as to suggest that you see my vid on youtube entitled: Felons With Guns parts 1+2 under the channel name: smilingscottsman. Thanks, keep up the good work.
Love your show…usually. I feel the need to take you to task a little. I think I agree with you, even though you never stated outright. I agree we need to just sit back and wait for all the facts. Yes, this is about the Zimmerman/Martin case. What I have issue with is the Question…What if it was a 140 lb woman? Just like race, what does that matter? How about, life in danger or not? Were you standing your ground or “aggressivly taking ground”? Or 140 lb woman is not the case…how about 6′ 2″ 200 lb man. It sounds like bad decisions were made on both sides, but I am tired of the 12 year old pics showing a little kid, when it was a man on man issue.
I was listening the your show and I couldn’t believe you stated that there is no right to self defense in the constitution. What about the right to keep and bare arms, you don’t bare arms to chop trees or break rocks. Then you went on to say there is no right to eat or food in the constitution but you stated that of course we all eat and have that right. There is absolutely no such right or even implied right to food in the constitution. You sound like the people that seem to think that health care is a right and either is in or should be in the constitution. I know what you meant but what you said didn’t come across that way.
Bureau Of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms & Explosives Update
Great Northern Guns in Anchorage, Alaska was asked to give up their “Bound Book” to a BATFE Agent so it could be copied. The Bound Book is a complete record of all firearms transactions by the FFL holder. They are not required by law to do so and they refused. In fact this would be a violation of FOPA. (Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986)
Our concern is that the administration may be trying some type of defacto registration scheme. We have been unable to ascertain who authorized this action and why. The Agent when asked said the orders came from “on high”. We suspect the Seattle office directed this action. We are inquiring from FFL holders in other states to see if this is a national in scope.
We have been told there were other dealers asked to give up the “Bound Book” in Alaska but have been unable to verify any others yet. Generally in Alaska BATFE has a good relationship with the gun community. A call to the local BATFE office did not yield any information. The individual that we spoke with didn’t divulge much except he stated the “Bound Book” is the property of the BATFE and they can pick it up anytime they choose. Read the provisions of FOPA below to learn what the restrictions are. FOPA is contradictory but there are distinct limitations on what government agents can access when and how.
There is a very good paper on FOPA here.
THE FIREARMS OWNERS’ PROTECTION ACT: A HISTORICAL AND LEGAL PERSPECTIVE
We must ask our legislators to launch an inquiry into why and who authorized the request. Please let every FFL holder you know about this.
Don Young
View Website
Office of Congressman Don Young
2314 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Tel: (202)225-5765
Fax: (202)225-0425
Mark Begich
View Website
111 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Tel: (202) 224-3004
Fax: (202) 224-2354
Toll-free line: 1(877)501-6275*
*Only toll-free for callers with an Alaska (907) area code.
Lisa Murkowski
View Website
709 Hart Senate Building
Washington, DC 20510
Tel: (202)224-6665
Fax: (202)224-5301
Below you will find the provisions under FOPA on record keeping and access to FFL records by authorities. The records are not to go to any government agency except under specific circumstances.
Provisions Of The Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986:
Inspection and Acquisition of Licensee Records
The Gun Control Act required licensees to maintain records of firearm acquisitions, dispositions, and inventories. Furthermore, it permitted warrantless inspection of these “at all reasonable times,” and broadly authorized the Secretary to require submission of reports on the records’ content.
FOPA establishes significant restrictions on the two latter powers. In general, administrative inspections of licensee records now require a magistrate’s warrant, based on a showing of reasonable cause to believe evidence of a violation may be found.
Three exceptions, however, nearly swallow this rule. Neither warrant nor reasonable cause is needed for (1) a reasonable inquiry in the course of a criminal investigation of a person other than the licensee; (2) an annual inspection for ensuring compliance with record keeping requirements; or (3) tracing a firearm in the course of a bona fide criminal investigation. While these sizably reduce application of the warrant and cause requirement, it remains effective for its primary purpose in any event: to prevent inspections undertaken without immediate law enforcement need, or abused for the purpose of harassment.
FOPA also institutes some measures designed to minimize the harassment potential of an otherwise authorized inspection or search. Only records material to a violation of law may be seized and even as to these, copies must be furnished the licensee within a reasonable time. The unusual appearance of the last protection vanishes upon reflection; because a licensee is legally bound to buy and sell only upon recordation, removal of his records is more than an inconvenience.
The power of the Secretary to acquire licensee records is likewise limited by FOPA.
Requirements to (1) submit records upon going out of business, (2) submit a report upon sale of more than one handgun to the same person during the same week and (3) submit reports of sales when ordered to do so by the Secretary, are enacted into law.
Conversely, the Secretary is forbidden to require submission of reports “except as expressly required by this section.” Paralleling this prohibition is the proviso that no future regulation may require that any records required by the Act “be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any state or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established.”
Wow, 2nd degree murder for Zimmerman? http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/04/11/report-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-shooting-wednesday-afternoon/
With good legal support I hope it won’t stick. From what I’ve heard, I believe he truly feared for his life so I hope the full truth comes out.
It just goes to show that any time you are forced to use your gun to defend your life, even if it IS justified, the battle isn’t over, it has just begun.
First of all Mr.Z did more than inject himself into a situation, he caused one. He didn’t see two people in confrontation and try to be a hero. He was trying to be a neighborhood hero and all he found was a teen walking and talking to a girl on the phone. Thats the facts. He said, he killed him. Also a fact. Mr.z claims self defense. The second Mr.Z moved forward to follow he gave up his right to self defense. He could have made that call to “THE LEGAL ATHUORITIES” then cleared himself from the area. He didn’t. also a fact. I am a pro gun, black male and I believe in my (2nd) rights. If Mr.Z was a black male my thoughts would not change. If the roles were reversed then I would say the same. Race was the tool to move the lever of justice in motion and everyone has their particular tool. If you don’t believe this I suggest you look at the Jewish state and why it exsists. Look at the battle for gun rights. It doesn’t matter Race,religion or interest strength comes in numbers reguardless of the subject matter. Justice and self-defense are very subjective. What happens to Mr.Z will happen one way or the other.
It is AMAZING how people who claim not to rush to judgment because all the facts are not in seem to automatically take Zimmerman’s side. But you’re not rushing to judge, right?
Below is a reply to an e-mail from the Brady Campaign of 04/16/12.
The more limitations of the Second Amendment, the fewer law abiding citizens will have the means to protect themselves and their families and the more guns the criminals will have to assault the law abiding populace. Just think back to WW II. The Japanese admitted that they didn’t invade the U.S.A. because of the Second Amendment and the people were able to defend themselves. When was the last time anyone invaded Switzerland? You can look it up and the reason why, but it has something to do with every household having a weapon in it. Without the Second Amendment, how many times do you think this country would have been under siege?
Hey Brian, I’m with you! I work midnights, have a 5 and a 2 year old and have to sleep, watch the kids and fix supper before the wife gets home! Even IF I wanted to I don’t have time to use Facebook, Twitter or any of that social media garbage. Mark come on, help out those of us loyal listeners who “Like” you every week by listening to the show! Just a thought!
19yr Army Medic! I love my Chevy 71 and my Glock 21 (45cal) Please call before knocking on my door!!! God Bless America!!! Can’t wait to read the new book, “Debacle”!
Not to change the subject but would anyone here like to help me become proficient at shooting?
I am dead accurate with a 22 cal. rifle or a pellet gun, but I have never shot anything else.
I live in Mn.
Mark, love the show and used to look forward to listening every week. I listen to several podcasts from iTunes and yours is getting increasingly difficult to hear while listening through my vehicles radio even with the volume cranked. I don’t have any problems hearing my other favorite gun podcasts. Can you check it out? If I’m experiencing it others must also. Thanks
Mark, quit cutting Shawn off. He sounds like he knows what he is talking about. I really enjoyed his input this week. Keep up the great work. I love listening to your podcast via iTunes.
You’re right the criminals will carry their weapons
No matter what.. And they’re trying to to stop legal
Conceal Carry. What are they thinking? Well I guess
You just can’t fix stupid! Concerned Floriida resident.
Hi Mark,
Any chance you can get someone from Gander Mountain on the show to explain why they kicked out the NRA’s Grassroots Workshop from their store in Wisconsin.
How do we who choose not to join any social media enter your give away contests?
Mark,
re your discussion on making the right choice the suspicious car/s and if you should have approached or not. NO!
1) you have no idea as to how many are in the car.
2) you do not know if they are armed.
3) if armed will your approach escalate the situation into violence?
Love your show. I listen on KNZZ 1100 AM in Grand Junction, CO.
John
p.s. I do not grill. But I make a delicious venisen stew! I usually carry a Springfield XD .45 at home or while out jb
I’M PLANING TO STORE A GOLD PLATED 1911 HANDGUN FOR ABOUT 6-7 YEARS WHAT DO I NEED TO DO
While the whole story has yet to be told … the more I hear the more it seems Zimmerman reasonably feared for his life. Still, his decision to fire has undeniably altered his life; a lesson we should all take away. Many are wearing a “hoodie” in support of Trayvon. I’m wearing a 9mm in support of George …
Tony Kushner: “What used to be called liberal is now called radical, what used to be called radical is now called insane, what used to be called reactionary is now called moderate, and what used to be called insane is now called solid conservative thinking.”
Found your podcasts on I-Tunes and love your show. May I be so bold as to suggest that you see my vid on youtube entitled: Felons With Guns parts 1+2 under the channel name: smilingscottsman. Thanks, keep up the good work.
Love your show…usually. I feel the need to take you to task a little. I think I agree with you, even though you never stated outright. I agree we need to just sit back and wait for all the facts. Yes, this is about the Zimmerman/Martin case. What I have issue with is the Question…What if it was a 140 lb woman? Just like race, what does that matter? How about, life in danger or not? Were you standing your ground or “aggressivly taking ground”? Or 140 lb woman is not the case…how about 6′ 2″ 200 lb man. It sounds like bad decisions were made on both sides, but I am tired of the 12 year old pics showing a little kid, when it was a man on man issue.
Anyone know why or how the ATF can force FFL’s to copy all of their 4473′s and snail mail the copies to them? They are doing it here in Tampa.
I was listening the your show and I couldn’t believe you stated that there is no right to self defense in the constitution. What about the right to keep and bare arms, you don’t bare arms to chop trees or break rocks. Then you went on to say there is no right to eat or food in the constitution but you stated that of course we all eat and have that right. There is absolutely no such right or even implied right to food in the constitution. You sound like the people that seem to think that health care is a right and either is in or should be in the constitution. I know what you meant but what you said didn’t come across that way.
Bureau Of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms & Explosives Update
Great Northern Guns in Anchorage, Alaska was asked to give up their “Bound Book” to a BATFE Agent so it could be copied. The Bound Book is a complete record of all firearms transactions by the FFL holder. They are not required by law to do so and they refused. In fact this would be a violation of FOPA. (Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986)
Our concern is that the administration may be trying some type of defacto registration scheme. We have been unable to ascertain who authorized this action and why. The Agent when asked said the orders came from “on high”. We suspect the Seattle office directed this action. We are inquiring from FFL holders in other states to see if this is a national in scope.
We have been told there were other dealers asked to give up the “Bound Book” in Alaska but have been unable to verify any others yet. Generally in Alaska BATFE has a good relationship with the gun community. A call to the local BATFE office did not yield any information. The individual that we spoke with didn’t divulge much except he stated the “Bound Book” is the property of the BATFE and they can pick it up anytime they choose. Read the provisions of FOPA below to learn what the restrictions are. FOPA is contradictory but there are distinct limitations on what government agents can access when and how.
There is a very good paper on FOPA here.
THE FIREARMS OWNERS’ PROTECTION ACT: A HISTORICAL AND LEGAL PERSPECTIVE
We must ask our legislators to launch an inquiry into why and who authorized the request. Please let every FFL holder you know about this.
Don Young
View Website
Office of Congressman Don Young
2314 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Tel: (202)225-5765
Fax: (202)225-0425
Mark Begich
View Website
111 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Tel: (202) 224-3004
Fax: (202) 224-2354
Toll-free line: 1(877)501-6275*
*Only toll-free for callers with an Alaska (907) area code.
Lisa Murkowski
View Website
709 Hart Senate Building
Washington, DC 20510
Tel: (202)224-6665
Fax: (202)224-5301
Below you will find the provisions under FOPA on record keeping and access to FFL records by authorities. The records are not to go to any government agency except under specific circumstances.
Provisions Of The Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986:
Inspection and Acquisition of Licensee Records
The Gun Control Act required licensees to maintain records of firearm acquisitions, dispositions, and inventories. Furthermore, it permitted warrantless inspection of these “at all reasonable times,” and broadly authorized the Secretary to require submission of reports on the records’ content.
FOPA establishes significant restrictions on the two latter powers. In general, administrative inspections of licensee records now require a magistrate’s warrant, based on a showing of reasonable cause to believe evidence of a violation may be found.
Three exceptions, however, nearly swallow this rule. Neither warrant nor reasonable cause is needed for (1) a reasonable inquiry in the course of a criminal investigation of a person other than the licensee; (2) an annual inspection for ensuring compliance with record keeping requirements; or (3) tracing a firearm in the course of a bona fide criminal investigation. While these sizably reduce application of the warrant and cause requirement, it remains effective for its primary purpose in any event: to prevent inspections undertaken without immediate law enforcement need, or abused for the purpose of harassment.
FOPA also institutes some measures designed to minimize the harassment potential of an otherwise authorized inspection or search. Only records material to a violation of law may be seized and even as to these, copies must be furnished the licensee within a reasonable time. The unusual appearance of the last protection vanishes upon reflection; because a licensee is legally bound to buy and sell only upon recordation, removal of his records is more than an inconvenience.
The power of the Secretary to acquire licensee records is likewise limited by FOPA.
Requirements to (1) submit records upon going out of business, (2) submit a report upon sale of more than one handgun to the same person during the same week and (3) submit reports of sales when ordered to do so by the Secretary, are enacted into law.
Conversely, the Secretary is forbidden to require submission of reports “except as expressly required by this section.” Paralleling this prohibition is the proviso that no future regulation may require that any records required by the Act “be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any state or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be established.”
This information provided by Alaska Libertarians
Wow, 2nd degree murder for Zimmerman?
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/04/11/report-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-shooting-wednesday-afternoon/
With good legal support I hope it won’t stick. From what I’ve heard, I believe he truly feared for his life so I hope the full truth comes out.
It just goes to show that any time you are forced to use your gun to defend your life, even if it IS justified, the battle isn’t over, it has just begun.
First of all Mr.Z did more than inject himself into a situation, he caused one. He didn’t see two people in confrontation and try to be a hero. He was trying to be a neighborhood hero and all he found was a teen walking and talking to a girl on the phone. Thats the facts. He said, he killed him. Also a fact. Mr.z claims self defense. The second Mr.Z moved forward to follow he gave up his right to self defense. He could have made that call to “THE LEGAL ATHUORITIES” then cleared himself from the area. He didn’t. also a fact. I am a pro gun, black male and I believe in my (2nd) rights. If Mr.Z was a black male my thoughts would not change. If the roles were reversed then I would say the same. Race was the tool to move the lever of justice in motion and everyone has their particular tool. If you don’t believe this I suggest you look at the Jewish state and why it exsists. Look at the battle for gun rights. It doesn’t matter Race,religion or interest strength comes in numbers reguardless of the subject matter. Justice and self-defense are very subjective. What happens to Mr.Z will happen one way or the other.
It is AMAZING how people who claim not to rush to judgment because all the facts are not in seem to automatically take Zimmerman’s side. But you’re not rushing to judge, right?
Below is a reply to an e-mail from the Brady Campaign of 04/16/12.
The more limitations of the Second Amendment, the fewer law abiding citizens will have the means to protect themselves and their families and the more guns the criminals will have to assault the law abiding populace. Just think back to WW II. The Japanese admitted that they didn’t invade the U.S.A. because of the Second Amendment and the people were able to defend themselves. When was the last time anyone invaded Switzerland? You can look it up and the reason why, but it has something to do with every household having a weapon in it. Without the Second Amendment, how many times do you think this country would have been under siege?
Hey Brian, I’m with you! I work midnights, have a 5 and a 2 year old and have to sleep, watch the kids and fix supper before the wife gets home! Even IF I wanted to I don’t have time to use Facebook, Twitter or any of that social media garbage. Mark come on, help out those of us loyal listeners who “Like” you every week by listening to the show! Just a thought!
P.S. Keep up the great work!
Where can I get a sweetshirt or t-shirt with the slogan “If I had a son he would look like Brian Terry”.
19yr Army Medic! I love my Chevy 71 and my Glock 21 (45cal) Please call before knocking on my door!!! God Bless America!!! Can’t wait to read the new book, “Debacle”!
Will the 4/22 broadcast be uploaded soon? I’m in withdrawal here…
Ditto!!!
Permit holder saves lives in Salt Lake City, UT.
Not to change the subject but would anyone here like to help me become proficient at shooting?
I am dead accurate with a 22 cal. rifle or a pellet gun, but I have never shot anything else.
I live in Mn.
Mark, love the show and used to look forward to listening every week. I listen to several podcasts from iTunes and yours is getting increasingly difficult to hear while listening through my vehicles radio even with the volume cranked. I don’t have any problems hearing my other favorite gun podcasts. Can you check it out? If I’m experiencing it others must also. Thanks
Could do with a broadcast in the UK. Please give the BBC a call!!
Mark, quit cutting Shawn off. He sounds like he knows what he is talking about. I really enjoyed his input this week. Keep up the great work. I love listening to your podcast via iTunes.
You’re right the criminals will carry their weapons
No matter what.. And they’re trying to to stop legal
Conceal Carry. What are they thinking? Well I guess
You just can’t fix stupid! Concerned Floriida resident.
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/05/07/hennepin-county-gun-permits-up-54-percent-in-2012/
here is some interesting information…… Comments?
Gander Mountain kicks out NRA
http://the-ooda-loop.com/2012/05/15/gander-mountain-kicks-the-nra-out-of-wisconsin-stores/
Hi Mark,
Any chance you can get someone from Gander Mountain on the show to explain why they kicked out the NRA’s Grassroots Workshop from their store in Wisconsin.
Hey Mark (or anyone),
Where can I find the murder statistics by state that you talked about on last weeks show?